tiki
She never has.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
tiki
She never has.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
Diogenesister
I totally agree with what you say.
I have read Steve Hassans' book and it helped me tremendously. As for children, I have one child she is 15 years old. I have worked out a strategy with my counselor how to manage her not getting overly involved with this cult. The most important advice I was given was to not draw her into a "loyalty conflict". So she goes along with her mother to the meetings etc. She is not baptized nor is she a publisher.
One sad thing for me is that I am over 50 now, and when I was a young man, before I got involved with this evil sect, I wanted to have a family with 3 or more children, I gave that dream up for the sect. It is too late for that now, I consider it to be unfair on a child to father children knowing that by the time they are 20 I will be over 70.
I do appreciate your concern.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
ToesUP
Even-though it comes directly from the GB, she still considers it to be lies. Like I said she is disillusion. She cannot be reasoned with.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
ssn587
Nice suggestion, but that drags me down to her level, I am above that and so is everyone who knows TTATT.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
BoC
Thanks.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
oppostate
Thank you for you kind words. Yes I do know who the enemy is, but my wife does not. I have been receiving counseling form a trained psychologist, and it is helping a great deal.
How to deal with all this is difficult, but maybe she decides to leave me, which is fine by me. There is no more love in the relationship, she gives all that to the bOrg.
i am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.. i live in germany and an ex jw, a friend of mine is also ex jw but does not understand english so i was giving him a rundown on the friday session of the rc with gj.
my wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, i did not realize this, because when the phone rang i closed two doors between myself and my wife.
she opened the first door and started listening to the conversation.
I am fuming at the moment and my wife has made me so angry.
I live in Germany and an ex JW, a friend of mine is also ex JW but does not understand English so I was giving him a rundown on the Friday session of the RC with GJ. My wife was in another part of the house but heard my phone ring and so she came to listen, I did not realize this, because when the phone rang I closed two doors between myself and my wife. She opened the first door and started listening to the conversation. When I started listing the untruths that GJ said during the questioning and calling him Pinnochio and said that his nose grew so big he could not leave the room again (I guess that was a lie from me), she burst into the room and started screaming that I was being dishonest, she was not interested in hearing any facts she just wanted me to stop expressing my opinion to someone else.
I requested calmly that she leave the room, she refused and started shouting and being abusive and calling me names, so I shouted back that she should leave the room. Again she refused, so I threw her out and locked the door. I went back to my discussion with my friend, who immediately apologized for calling me and causing me these problems. I assured him that he wasn't the cause of this. Anyway after about 5 mins. my wife who all the time was on the other side of the door started screaming again, and calling my a liar.
So from my room there is a door leading up into the attic, so I went up there to carry on my conversation.
Anyway it took a great deal of effort not to punch her in the nose.
Out marriage is ruined, and I place full blame on the man in the sky, Jehovah, because my wife is only doing what the JW org wants her to do and that is to put Jehovah/GB above everything. She also warned me that I am not stronger than Jehovah and that I cannot fight against Jehovah. She really is delusional.
Anyway after writing this I have calmed down a little.
okay, i don't even know where to start.
i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.
not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.
Do not try to do this on your own, get help. You will not get help from JWs.
There are lots of people who are willing to help you.
Just do not go it alone.
q: is there anyone that has the permanent role of coordinator or chairman?.
geejay: no, we rotate yearly...... (translaton) we are all sparticus.. geejay: we are a faith driven org, we are not a group of lawyers, being overly concerned with legal matters..... fave quotes .
on establishing headship principle 1cor 14: 33-35, 1 cor 11:3. geejay:...... that's talking about women not excitedly jumping up arguing with others..... geejay: ......our literature has said it, and we agree!.
TM
Good point to bring up about him being a translator.
Now I am a translator, that means I am proficient in two languages. In which languages does he translate?
geoffrey jackson spent 20 minutes accepting the position that it is not scripturally prohibited for women to be used in the investigation process, although probably not the jc itself (he said he'd check the scriptures on that bit, but we can guess the outcome).. look out for the wives of elders jostling for and gaining these positions.
there will be no better opportunity for gossip mongers to raise their status in the congregation than being officially involved in the intimate private business of others in the congregation.. think of the power they will have in advising the elders on a jc if she thinks the victim is credible, with her opinion, bias and embellishments on the details.
i wouldn't fancy the chances of a victim who has previously fallen out with one of these 'helpers'.. whatever next, sisters handling microphones??!
Although this discussion is justified, my opinion is this.
Any kind of sexual abuse is a matter for the secular authorities and not the elders or elderettes.